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2441
 楼主| 发表于 2024-1-25 09:57 | 只看该作者 来自 北美地区
俄网的高码现在很多来自Qobuz,部分来自Presto。
尽量找后者吧,原厂信息量会好些。
苹果的声音很温柔,动态没那么凌厉。
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2442
发表于 2024-1-25 10:00 | 只看该作者 来自 中国
又有继续的,真好
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2443
发表于 2024-1-25 10:15 | 只看该作者 来自 浙江杭州
scfan 发表于 2024-1-25 09:40
对比过带Tidal、Qobuz印记以及疑似带iTunes印记,和只带原厂印记的Hires文件,

对比基本上基于同一录音
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秋帆兄和吴迪兄对文件差异的见解很对路,实际情况就是如此,我也是这么个听感
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2444
发表于 2024-1-26 08:21 | 只看该作者 来自 海南海口
本帖最后由 funyorh 于 2024-1-26 08:31 编辑

以前曾对比过一些录音在不同平台的音频文件差异,结果是文件数据是一样的。
现在又对比了几个录音专辑在两个不同平台的文件差别,其中qobuz文件来自本坛大神斯蒂文仙,另一来源为俄网(发布者称来自presto)或韩包(来源平台不详),结论仍然是:音频数据是一样的!
差别在于:1、元数据(曲目信息)不同(比如klemperer的一首,见下图)



2、flac文件大小不同(由于曲目信息或压缩率不同)。比如Beethoven Missa solemnis - Otto Klemperer [24-192]这个专辑,qobuz文件3.15G,presto文件3.16G。


对比过程:把两个平台同首录音文件的曲目信息清除,还原为wav,对比md5,两者完全一致。



当然,对比范围有限,不代表所有专辑都一样。
放上其中一个专辑Beethoven Missa solemnis - Otto Klemperer [24-192]的qobuz和presto文件,有兴趣的可自行比较。
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2445
发表于 2024-1-26 10:32 | 只看该作者 来自 上海闵行区
数据当然是一样的,但听感不一样

当然,这可以说是玄学。。。
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2446
发表于 2024-1-26 11:42 | 只看该作者 来自 亚太地区
scfan 发表于 2024-1-26 10:32
数据当然是一样的,但听感不一样

当然,这可以说是玄学。。。

如果使用各平台专用的流媒体播放器,听感可能不同
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2447
发表于 2024-1-26 18:50 | 只看该作者 来自 亚太地区
funyorh 发表于 2024-1-26 08:21
以前曾对比过一些录音在不同平台的音频文件差异,结果是文件数据是一样的。
现在又对比了几个录音专辑在两 ...

如果还原成WAV是一样的话,我宁愿相信听不出差别,只要原始录音质量好的话,不同码率,版本的听感差别比较小.

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2448
发表于 2024-1-27 23:55 | 只看该作者 来自 江苏苏州
比如flac转wav这么一件小事,用foobar转和用其他软件转,每个软件转出来的wav,理论上没有差别。实际上,用电脑文件对比,也是没有差别的。

但,听感就是不一样。我说的听感不一样,和前面说的一样,基于在同一个听音组合,变量只有文件。比如用不同软件转的wav文件,或者来源自不同平台的flac文件。
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2449
发表于 2024-1-28 09:30 | 只看该作者 来自 浙江
scfan 发表于 2024-1-27 23:55
比如flac转wav这么一件小事,用foobar转和用其他软件转,每个软件转出来的wav,理论上没有差别。实际上,用 ...

哪个软件转格式效果最好?
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2450
发表于 2024-1-28 13:52 | 只看该作者 来自 江苏苏州
本帖最后由 scfan 于 2024-1-28 13:53 编辑
cantabile 发表于 2024-1-28 09:30
哪个软件转格式效果最好?

我比较喜欢audiogate

但我个人更喜欢直接用flac,而非转换的wav播放
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2451
发表于 2024-1-31 00:26 | 只看该作者 来自 中国
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发表于 2024-1-31 02:13 | 只看该作者 来自 中国
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发表于 2024-1-31 06:51 | 只看该作者 来自 中国
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2454
发表于 2024-1-31 07:56 | 只看该作者 来自 中国
感谢,感谢!
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2455
发表于 2024-1-31 08:13 | 只看该作者 来自 亚太地区
谢谢,又有新鲜东西了
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2456
发表于 2024-1-31 12:09 | 只看该作者 来自 日本
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2457
发表于 2024-1-31 13:42 | 只看该作者 来自 日本


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